Blog Moderation

By: Aaron Cowdin , 6:38 PM GMT on February 15, 2013

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Our community moderation system works pretty well. Even now, almost all of the content on the site which is removed is done so through user flags. But it's not perfect, it's not even great. For several years we'd had a struggle keeping up with trolls, spammers, and also just keeping the quality of the conversation on the blogs generally civil. Monomaniacs and attention seekers could easily hijack an otherwise civil conversation quite easily.

Last September I decided to try an experiment and give a few members of the community the power to ban members from the blogs, both permanently and temporarily. These members were given a very strict set of rules dictating where these bans could be applied and how they could be applied. Every action they take is logged, monitored, and can be reversed by an administrator. Being members of the community themselves, they understand the ins and outs of the community, the personalities involved and the history of this place.

At the same time we've been lifting restrictions and pardoning permabans from the past at a higher rate. We've been trying to strike a balance between keeping order and making this a place where interesting and entertaining discussion can take place.

The experiment has been an unqualified success. The tone and content of the blogs has improved. Blogging around major weather events has been much more sober in tone and far more civil, but spirited discussions can still take place. Between the quick flagging of individual community members and the watchful eyes of the moderators, troll attacks are now generally short lived. We even survived a United States Presidential election cycle without a tremendous amount of drama. The next logical step is to go public with this change. My hand was forced in this a bit, but I am more than happy to make the change public at this point.

Moderators who choose to comment in the blogs will be publicly marked with a (Mod) badge. Please continue to use the community flags, as this is where the real moderation is happening. Do not bombard the moderators with requests to handle problems. Our internal admin group here is also growing, and I'll be announcing new team additions soon.

The goal here is and always will be to make the blogs more fun as well as more open. Thanks for making this a great place to discuss weather, we'll try to stay out of your way, and keep the trolls out of your way as well.

Please feel free to discuss this change in this blog, but keep it out of the featured blogs.

-Aaron

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Quoting 617. hurricanecrab:


So, you know better than the folks tasked with dealing with these issues.

Seems to me he does. How many Holocaust survivors have you known?

You seem to be one with an unhealthy deference to authority - an authority that, in this case, has proven to be clueless. If you're happy following along mindlessly, good for you, I guess there's always a place for some lemmings in this would. Just watch out for that cliff.

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Quoting 618. ncstorm:


Just remember guys..lets be fair and not jump to conclusions..way to be fair HC
Be fair to whom?
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Quoting 617. hurricanecrab:


So, you know better than the folks tasked with dealing with these issues.

Gotcha. We have already been informed that Admin and mods are discussing the issue. Suppose YOU were the issue........ do you want someone like me to be able to push the buttons to get you removed, or do you want a concensus of caring people to decide your fate?

Choose. I hope you choose me, because I'm willing to swing the hammer.
No, you don't get it. The issue is not about one person getting another person banned; the issue is whether this blog will ban links to hate sites and perma-ban people who link to them. The "caring people" should already have reached a consensus that such hateful actions will not be tolerated. Since they haven't done so (apparently), now is the time for them to make up their minds.

There are times when questioning authority is the right thing to do.
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Quoting 617. hurricanecrab:


So, you know better than the folks tasked with dealing with these issues.

Gotcha. We have already been informed that Admin and mods are discussing the issue. Suppose YOU were the issue........ do you want someone like me to be able to push the buttons to get you removed, or do you want a concensus of caring people to decide your fate?

Choose. I hope you choose me, because I'm willing to swing the hammer.


Just remember guys..lets be fair and not jump to conclusions..way to be fair HC
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Quoting 615. Grothar:
Either these people are permanently removed or I take this even further.


So, you know better than the folks tasked with dealing with these issues.

Gotcha. We have already been informed that Admin and mods are discussing the issue. Suppose YOU were the issue........ do you want someone like me to be able to push the buttons to get you removed, or do you want a concensus of caring people to decide your fate?

Choose. I hope you choose me, because I'm willing to swing the hammer.
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Quoting 578. Skyepony:
First off nothing in that post in Rood's was actually anti-Semitic other than the info you viewed on another website.

But it wasn't tastefully & carefully warned so it got removed & a few hours. Either way it is an opinion in the climate change debate. Though not popular, we are already censoring the site so it's a part of the debate that for the most part won't be happening here.

Spam is something where someone is selling something..what some of you are calling spam is an opinion that doesn't agree with your facts.. If you are tired of seeing it please use the tools provided to help you ignore them.


Under that standard I could link to the Aryan Brotherhood if they have a web page claiming that global warming is a Jewish conspiracy. They have the same ideology as that ZOG site.

In all seriousness I think there is no place for people who promote hate sites against any group in a civil discussion. And that is true for any site that wants to promote civil discourse.

In every other blog/bulletin board/chat site I've been on about any subject, you post from a hate site and you're gone. I don't see what the reluctance is here.

Grothar I'm truly sorry your family and their friends were killed and suffered so much at the hands of the Nazis in World War II.
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I don't normally involve myself with such issues but:



First they came for the socialists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a
socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade
unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me.

-Martin Niemoeller

I do not usually speak of my personal life, for good reasons.

My family suffered greatly because of something which began so seemingly benignly. They were exiled from Austria then Germany because they spoke against what was to become one of the greatest tragedies of our time. And no, they were not Jews.

To allow or much less condone this behavior is disgusting. In no way should this be allowed. I cannot tell you how many of my family and friends of my family were killed as a result of this.

Either these people are permanently removed or I take this even further.
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Quoting 601. hurricanecrab:
I'm now officially sorry for having posted here. My intention was NOT to rip the Band-Aid off the wound, but to salve the sore.

I am fervently against anti-Semitism, and fervently against anti-(any group).

My POINT was to demonstrate that mods and Admin have more information on posts/members than we do, and therefore we should NOT attempt to leverage them into ANY action whatsoever. Moderators and Admin are a group of insightful and intelligent folk. I encourage you all to let them handle it in the manner that their consensus dictates. They do not and should not answer to us.

Short answer: We, the members cannot dictate nor vote for how a post is actioned. It is above our pay grade, and better minds are constantly at work to do what is best for Wunderground. I trust their consensus.

Crabout

actually, crab, I don't think you need to feel sorry about anything. Your post helped me focus on what my issue was and why I wasn't willing (in this case) to accept their consensus. Usually I'm happy to let them do their thing running the blog - which seems to me to be in much better shape than when I started reading and lurking last summer - even though I don't always agree with them. This issue seemed to me to need more attention than it was getting.

Thank you for contributing a reasonable voice to the discussion.
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Quoting 609. Skyepony:
Yeah, I'm not admin. It's being/been discussed by them. They see your positions. I did the best to interpret & apply the rules I've been given.. That whole thing has alot of gray areas.

Naga5000 ~Because you feel you can not ignore, that you must debunk everything someone posts & doing that doesn't bring you joy, doesn't give you the right to complain to no end & to demand admin to answer to it. They gave you the ignore feature..use it...even for a few days.


I don't understand the focus on me in this situation. I think I accurately and intelligibly stated my case. I have still yet to get one response that addresses it.

Instead you brought up Allahgore. Last time I checked, I can't ban anyone, only that users actions can result in a ban.

So, if that's how it will go, no worries. No hard feelings towards the moderation team or the admin from my end.
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Quoting 605. Skyepony:


If someone did this repeatedly, it wasn't related or was the same article over & over then yes.. That article was put out very recent to that day though..it was the newest argument in the climate change debate.. Was that position voiced on FOX news?? Does anyone know???.. It really was more about some rich jews taking over the world & using climate as their means to make money...then hating or killing them.

I get the impression that you've led a very sheltered life. It was that exact argument - rich Jews taking over the world - that the Nazis used to try to justify the Holocaust. I realize that you're most likely not trying to defend anti-Semitism here but your message is coming across poorly.

Maybe time to let it rest before you get even further in the hole?

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Looks like a party is going on over here.Where's the party favors and mini sandwiches?...Oh never mind..
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Quoting 605. Skyepony:


If someone did this repeatedly, it wasn't related or was the same article over & over then yes.. That article was put out very recent to that day though..it was the newest argument in the climate change debate.. Was that position voiced on FOX news?? Does anyone know???.. It really was more about some rich jews taking over the world & using climate as their means to make money...then hating or killing them.
Sorry, Skye, it doesn't take photos of dead Jews to make an article like that a hate site. If this is the newest argument in the climate change debate (so-called), it's a very dangerous argument. Fueling hate toward minorities is not something to be tolerated. If someone here links to a hate site - any kind of hate site - they should get more than a slap on the wrist.

Really, don't you see how an argument like that is an attempt to tap into a centuries old hatred and resentment of Jews, regardless of what pictures they are showing?

Edited to add: I read your post 609. Thanks for trying to be fair. I don't see as much gray area as you do, but that's why you make a better mod than I would.
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609. Skyepony (Mod)
Yeah, I'm not admin. It's being/been discussed by them. They see your positions. I did the best to interpret & apply the rules I've been given.. That whole thing has alot of gray areas.

Naga5000 ~Because you feel you can not ignore, that you must debunk everything someone posts & doing that doesn't bring you joy, doesn't give you the right to complain to no end & to demand admin to answer to it. They gave you the ignore feature..use it...even for a few days.
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Quoting 605. Skyepony:


If someone did this repeatedly, it wasn't related or was the same article over & over then yes.. That article was put out very recent to that day though..it was the newest argument in the climate change debate.. Was that position voiced on FOX news?? Does anyone know???.. It really was more about some rich jews taking over the world & using climate as their means to make money...then hating or killing them.


Or it could be considered a continuation of the same old racist conspiracy theory propagating itself over time. It's not about the link to AGW, it's about the antisemitism. Link I'm sorry Skye, I think to say "it was the newest argument in the climate change debate" is to wholly take it out of context for what it is, a continuing racist conspiracy theory.
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Quoting 602. outrocket:


she is and moderators represent admin thats why they were chosen and admin will back her over anyone if she sticks to policy and she has.
And you know that what Skye has said is admin's policy because ... Skye said it? Slightly tautological, don't you think?
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605. Skyepony (Mod)
Quoting 595. BaltimoreBrian:
Skyepony it's not about whether someone accepts AGW or not. It's whether admin tolerates a handle that links to anti-semitism.


If someone did this repeatedly, it wasn't related or was the same article over & over then yes.. That article was put out very recent to that day though..it was the newest argument in the climate change debate.. Was that position voiced on FOX news?? Does anyone know???.. It really was more about some rich jews taking over the world & using climate as their means to make money...then hating or killing them.
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Quoting 602. outrocket:


she is and moderators represent admin thats why they were chosen and admin will back her over anyone if she sticks to policy and she has.


I understand now. Linking to an anti-semitic hate site merits a slap on the wrist according to admin policy. My decision is clear.

For the record the site yoboi linked to was this page from this site It is all about the old stereotype of rich and educated Jews conniving to take over the world. It's hateful, bigoted and disgusting. And I reject it utterly.
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Quoting 597. Skyepony:
Linking to a porn site would be more like linking to a straight up I just hate jews site with gratuitous dead jews & nazi's..not an opinion in the climate debate that is singling out a group like certain corporations have been singled out by the other side for trying to take over the world, not just straight up hating... It should have been warned.. like this link that might offend someone. We aren't entertaining it here..ban worthy?? Maybe if it was copy & pasted into Roods.

It's a gray area, made for some interesting conversation.


Claiming the energy sector of business is it it for their own goals and is actively supporting an agenda that is both anti science and anti AGW is supported by countless factual evidence. Claiming that a religious group is pushing an agenda with the only evidence being they are members of the same religious group is not analogous.
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Quoting 599. BaltimoreBrian:


I didn't realize that. I thought she was a moderator.


she is and moderators represent admin thats why they were chosen and admin will back her over anyone if she sticks to policy and she has.
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I'm now officially sorry for having posted here. My intention was NOT to rip the Band-Aid off the wound, but to salve the sore.

I am fervently against anti-Semitism, and fervently against anti-(any group).

My POINT was to demonstrate that mods and Admin have more information on posts/members than we do, and therefore we should NOT attempt to leverage them into ANY action whatsoever. Moderators and Admin are a group of insightful and intelligent folk. I encourage you all to let them handle it in the manner that their consensus dictates. They do not and should not answer to us.

Short answer: We, the members cannot dictate nor vote for how a post is actioned. It is above our pay grade, and better minds are constantly at work to do what is best for Wunderground. I trust their consensus.

Crabout

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Quoting 588. Skyepony:
Naga5000~ for months you went after allahgore~ that was the climate troll. Now that they are banned it's yoboi. So when yoboi is banned who next?

Do you think we should perma-ban everyone that admittedly stands in the anti-agw camp after you have showed them the facts?
Obviously not, or we would have a longer list. :-)

But at least some people, like snowlover, attempt to talk about the science.. Yoboi has told us in his own words that he thinks AGW is a scam, and his link to an anti-Semitic site was just one more part of his rant.
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Quoting 598. outrocket:


well sky is admin she gave her response. So your choice.


I didn't realize that. I thought she was a moderator.
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Quoting 596. FLwolverine:
Not to favor, just to respond. Obviously if I don't like Admin's response, I can decide whether to stay with WU or not. If you think that's bullying, then you need to recheck the definition.


well sky is admin she gave her response. So your choice.
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597. Skyepony (Mod)
Linking to a porn site would be more like linking to a straight up I just hate jews site with gratuitous dead jews & nazi's..not an opinion in the climate debate that is singling out a group like certain corporations have been singled out by the other side for trying to take over the world, not just straight up hating... It should have been warned.. like this link that might offend someone. We aren't entertaining it here..ban worthy?? Maybe if it was copy & pasted into Roods.

It's a gray area, made for some interesting conversation.
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Quoting 586. outrocket:
That we need to make some noise to get an answer to our question...same kind of post different words ,still its bulling AARON to favor you.
Not to favor, just to respond. Obviously if I don't like Admin's response, I can decide whether to stay with WU or not. If you think that's bullying, then you need to recheck the definition.
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Skyepony it's not about whether someone accepts AGW or not. It's whether admin tolerates a handle that links to anti-semitism.
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Quoting 575. outrocket:
again Brian that may not be the posters fault. I see all kind of links here from sites that hate Christians to any other religion. Many links I have seen even on Dr. Roods blog are from democrat think tanks and republican think tanks.BOTH ARE PAID TO TAKE SIDES My point on that is we all cant control the sites that are linked...Thats why WU gives a warning you are about to leave here and go to a site they don't control and GIVE you that choice to go there or not..Nobody twist your arm to go there...make sense?.
Not the poster's fault? How do you figure that? They're the one who posted the link. Seems to me they should know what's in it, don't you think?

Has anyone ever posted a link to a site that says Christians are behind AGW as a conspiracy to take over the world? Didn't think so.

True that we can't control the sites others link to; therefore...... what? We shouldn't care whether somewhat links to a racist site or some other hate site? What about porno sites? Should we care if people link to those?
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Quoting 588. Skyepony:
Naga5000~ for months you went after allahgore~ that was the climate troll. Now that they are banned it's yoboi. So when yoboi is banned who next?

Do you think we should perma-ban everyone that admittedly stands in the anti-agw camp after you have showed them the facts?


I'm sorry if you don't notice the inherent similarities between the two. This has nothing to do with going after anti-agw people. I have said nothing about the drive by spammers like CEastwood and IceAgecoming. This isn't about censoring anti-agw users, but when those users, regardless of opinion, constantly use classic forum disruption techniques maybe they shouldn't be around.

Also, was Allahgore banned because of me, or because of his actions. If it's because of me, well then that is wrong, if it's because I got you guys to actually look at his trolling, well good.
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Flag it I did. But you didn't say what action admin should take when someone posts a link to an anti-semitic hate site on a featured blog outrocket.
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591. Skyepony (Mod)
Quoting 587. BaltimoreBrian:


No.

What do you believe should be the proper action for admin to take when someone deliberately links to an anti-semitic hate site on a featured blog?


Does the site have anything to do with climate change?..is it portraits of rich people or piles of dead people??? It makes a difference..
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Quoting 588. Skyepony:
Naga5000~ for months you went after allahgore~ that was the climate troll. Now that they are banned it's yoboi. So when yoboi is banned who next?

Do you think we should perma-ban everyone that admittedly stands in the anti-agw camp after you have showed them the facts?


again whats worse a troll or a bully?

that's a tough spot for admin because both parties may be wrong.
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Flag it..they already have their tail covered Brian, by the disclaimer..that disclaimer makes it YOUR FAULT if you click on the link..NOT the posters..make sense?
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588. Skyepony (Mod)
Naga5000~ for months you went after allahgore~ that was the climate troll. Now that they are banned it's yoboi. So when yoboi is banned who next?

Do you think we should perma-ban everyone that admittedly stands in the anti-agw camp after you have showed them the facts?
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Quoting 583. outrocket:
Brian was your arm twisted to go there?


No.

What do you believe should be the proper action for admin to take when someone deliberately links to an anti-semitic hate site on a featured blog?
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That we need to make some noise to get an answer to our question...same kind of post different words ,still its bulling AARON to favor you.
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Quoting 580. outrocket:
First off nothing in that post in Rood's was actually anti-Semitic other than the info you viewed on another website.

BINGO and WU warns you before you leave.


Not if you right click and select open in a new tab. That argument is moot. When you post a link, you as the user, should know very well what point it is you are trying to make. You would have to be very stupid to post the link with a small blurb detailing your antisemitism.
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Quoting 576. outrocket:
Do we need to bring a bunch of members over here complaining to get some attention?


what does that imply?
That we need to make some noise to get an answer to our question. But since we aren't selling anything, that is (by Sky's definition) not spamming. Try again,
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Brian was your arm twisted to go there?
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Quoting 578. Skyepony:
First off nothing in that post in Rood's was actually anti-Semitic other than the info you viewed on another website.

But it wasn't tastefully & carefully warned so it got removed & a few hours. Either way it is an opinion in the climate change debate. Though not popular, we are already censoring the site so it's a part of the debate that for the most part won't be happening here.

Spam is something where someone is selling something..what some of you are calling spam is an opinion that doesn't agree with your facts.. If you are tired of seeing it please use the tools provided to help you ignore them.


I disagree, given the context and historical negative sentiment towards Jewish people by both heritage and religion, that site was flat out antisemitic like all sites that claim tin foil hat Jewish conspiracies. Specifically using that argument as a basis that Global Warming is not occurring speaks more to character and beliefs that anything else. How can we expect to civilly debate and discuss science with someone whose opinion is based on one of the oldest conspiracies in the world and has no grounding in science.

By telling us to simply ignore the user does not spare curious new people interested in the science from being tricked and misinformed by such foolish things as none of us will be there to rebut.
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outrocket the poster made very clear he knew what he was posting when he linked to that site. Deliberately linking to a virulently anti-semitic site is different from calling another blogger a jerk and getting a time out for it. I don't care if anyone believes in AGW or not. I do, but I post my links with very little editorializing or comment. Occasionally some of the skeptical/denying links have interesting points.

Using a featured blog to link anti-semitism is different. That is spreading hatred of a religious group and it should be unacceptable.
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First off nothing in that post in Rood's was actually anti-Semitic other than the info you viewed on another website.

BINGO and WU warns you before you leave.
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Quoting 570. hurricanecrab:
If I may.......

I'm not a mod, nor do I wish to be, nor would I be a good choice for one. That said:

There is such a thing as giving a person enough rope to make their position clear, and then acting upon that position. A person is allowed their own opinion, even if that opinion appears abhorrent to the majority of the group.

The post in question was actioned, and the member actioned. The ball is in their court, and not the members. Don't forget, there are communications to which we are not privy, nor should we be. Let the moderators and Admin. do their jobs. OUR job is to contribute and to flag posts which we believe to be in contravention to the Rules of the Road.

fini
Your point is legitimate. However, this is a privately owned blog, not a public forum. Although a person is allowed their own opinion, a person is not allowed to express their opinion here unless the owners and administrators of this blog permit it. What I want, and what I think Brian and others want, is for admin here to demonstrate unequivocally that anti-semitism is not allowed on this blog. A slap on the wrist to yoboi is not sufficient.
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578. Skyepony (Mod)
First off nothing in that post in Rood's was actually anti-Semitic other than the info you viewed on another website.

But it wasn't tastefully & carefully warned so it got removed & a few hours. Either way it is an opinion in the climate change debate. Though not popular, we are already censoring the site so it's a part of the debate that for the most part won't be happening here.

Spam is something where someone is selling something..what some of you are calling spam is an opinion that doesn't agree with your facts.. If you are tired of seeing it please use the tools provided to help you ignore them.
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Quoting 572. outrocket:
Sorry, but from what I have observed year in and year out here at WU is anyone who post on Dr. Roods blog who don't agree with AGW is tag teamed by 90% of the posters there. When anyone post a link to any site other than one that 90% agree with they are automatically called a troll and is then bullied by the regulars on that blog that don't want to debate AGW, just dictate it...Read your own behavior over the years. That may be why admin has not banned the blogger. What's worse a troll or a bully????..I mean look you just threatened AARON with spamming his blog until he does what YOU want...I ask is that right? Who wants GANG rule?


By "tag teamed" I'll assume you mean rebutted by actual scientific publications. In that case, yes, because misinformation and disinformation is the bane of science. We get a lot of that in Dr. Rood's blog. For someone who doesn't actively participate in the blog, I would respectively have to say that you are greatly misinterpreting the situation. We have tried, multiple times over a lengthy time period to reason with the user by showing where and why his "facts" were mistaken, ask him questions to get him to respond to better understand his position, and attempted to point him in the direction of actually reading the published, peer reviewed information available. This came to a head for the entire blog when he posted a link to a antisemitic website claiming AGW was nothing more that a Jewish Conspiracy .

We like our little corner of WU, we like to engage in conversation and discussion on AGW, even with those who may disagree. We like science, we like helping out new folks who may be confused by the heaps of misinformation out there. When one user has become such a disruption to the blog, action needs to be taken. This isn't an isolated incident, but rather a series of events that become quite obviously distracting and offensive when looking at the posts over time.
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Do we need to bring a bunch of members over here complaining to get some attention?


what does that imply?
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again Brian that may not be the posters fault. I see all kind of links here from sites that hate Christians to any other religion. Many links I have seen even on Dr. Roods blog are from democrat think tanks and republican think tanks.BOTH ARE PAID TO TAKE SIDES My point on that is we all cant control the sites that are linked...Thats why WU gives a warning you are about to leave here and go to a site they don't control and GIVE you that choice to go there or not..Nobody twist your arm to go there...make sense?.
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Quoting 572. outrocket:
Sorry, but from what I have observed year in and year out here at WU is anyone who post on Dr. Roods blog who don't agree with AGW is tag teamed by 90% of the posters there. When anyone post a link to any site other than one that 90% agree with they are automatically called a troll and is then bullied by the regulars on that blog that don't want to debate AGW, just dictate it...Read your own behavior over the years. That may be why admin has not banned the blogger. What's worse a troll or a bully????..I mean look you just threatened AARON with spamming his blog until he does what YOU want...I ask is that right? Who wants GANG rule?
Nobody threatened Aaron with spamming. Members who want to know why admin hasn't done more about this matter are entitled to post that question on this blog - if for no other reason than to let admin know that Brian is not the only concerned member.

As for your other statement, if someone comes to Dr Rood's blog "who don't agree with AGW", they are given a chance to make their argument. Just saying "I don't agree with AGW" is not an argument. Personally I keep hoping someone will show up with some valid objections, because I really don't like the prospect of an AGW-future. But no one has presented any valid facts or arguments!

We'll be happy to debate AGW with you on Dr Rood's blog. Here's the proposition: Human caused CO2 emissions are causing the earth and atmosphere to warm in a way that will have severe negative effects on humanity. Do you have any evidence to refute that? If so, bring it on.
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It not about a comment disagreeing with AGW outrocket. It's about a comment linking to an article on the Zionist Occupied Government website which said that global warming was a fraud concocted by Jews to take over the world. The article used the same language and insinuations that the Nazis used in Germany 80 years ago. Anti-semitism of the worst sort and not acceptable.
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Sorry, but from what I have observed year in and year out here at WU is anyone who post on Dr. Roods blog who don't agree with AGW is tag teamed by 90% of the posters there. When anyone post a link to any site other than one that 90% agree with they are automatically called a troll and is then bullied by the regulars on that blog that don't want to debate AGW, just dictate it...Read your own behavior over the years. That may be why admin has not banned the blogger. What's worse a troll or a bully????..I mean look you just threatened AARON with spamming his blog until he does what YOU want...I ask is that right? Who wants GANG rule?
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Quoting 570. hurricanecrab:
If I may.......

I'm not a mod, nor do I wish to be, nor would I be a good choice for one. That said:

There is such a thing as giving a person enough rope to make their position clear, and then acting upon that position. A person is allowed their own opinion, even if that opinion appears abhorrent to the majority of the group.

The post in question was actioned, and the member actioned. The ball is in their court, and not the members. Don't forget, there are communications to which we are not privy, nor should we be. Let the moderators and Admin. do their jobs. OUR job is to contribute and to flag posts which we believe to be in contravention to the Rules of the Road.

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That's certainly true, but the user in question has a long track-record of spamming comments with non sequiturs, plagiarized and not-really-relevant bits of non-science, repetitive and recycled one-line rejoinders, and not really engaging in any real way with other users other than to derail and apparently get a rise out of everyone else. You can look back in the comment history in this post and see that there's a track record of this behavior going back through April, so it's not as though this is a new phenomenon. At some point, you have enough data to see what's really happening; at this point, probably 97% of sysadmins would agree with the consensus view that the sole purpose of this user in this particular venue is to troll. Badly.
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